7 Reasons You SHOULDN’T Go To College

Dale Partridge
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40 years ago we had a great education system. Learning was affordable and employers offered higher paying jobs to those with degrees. Not anymore.

The average annual college tuition is over $50,000 per year and employers are measuring candidates less on knowledge and more on portfolio or experience. Young adults need to start thinking for themselves instead of enrolling because “my parents want me to have a degree”. Furthermore, it's putting our young adults in massive debt. Two thirds of the graduating population to be exact. School loan debt now ranks #2 at $1.2 trillion only to be surpassed by mortgage loans.

The golden model of “go to college and get a good job” is not longer gold. It's rusty and broken.

With the intersection of the internet and a weak economy, everything has changed. Learning is free and if you're willing to work for it, you'll find yourself a pretty sweet career. The video below both made me laugh and cringe. I hope this truth telling satire makes you question your choice to enroll.

What do you think of the current college system? Pending you're not talking to a doctor, lawyer, or teacher would you recommend college to someone? Let me know in the comments below.

141 COMMENTS

  1. Man I completely agree. I’m finishing up my first year out of minimum 7 to become a dentist. The pre recs have nothing to do with becoming a dentist at all and really make you wonder why you’re putting in so much effort and money into something that doesn’t apply to what you want to do.

  2. YES!!! LOL! The BEST dose of truth I’ve heard in a while! I totally agree. I’ve been going to college almost every year since I graduated high school almost ELEVEN YEARS AGO, and after 3 majors and one degree, I *STILL* have no job pertaining to any of that education (even after having “job placement assistance”… *rolls eyes*). Luckily my parents were smart enough to open a mutual fund for me when I was a child, so most of that college was already paid for, but I am now right around the corner from 30 [years old], $20,000 in student loan debt AND have a ‘flipping-burgers’ type job. Definitely NOT where I had hoped to be at this point in my life :-

    • Sara- unfortunately the job market changes. Without knowing what you selected…It is usually wise when selecting a degree to pick something that there is a market for and potential job growth. If you are selecting something that there is limited jobs, then perhaps you are right… the education may not have been worth it. But students need to realize this when selecting programs such as this.

  3. I agree fully with this. I just finished my third year in college and I feel like I’ve been wasting my life and I’m terrified of what happens when I’m finished next year. College has not just drained my brain, but I feel that it has drained my creativity. I used to do creative writing for fun in my spare time. I was always full of ideas for little stories and was intent on playing with words to describe settings… but since being in college, I feel that I have lost that part of my brain. I can’t think creatively anymore because of all the redundant assignments and bland “learning” that I have experienced. I now know that the best way to learn is to simply get out into the world, travel, meet people, experience new and exciting things, and take chances. I find that seeking knowledge by myself and at my own pace is far more valuable that sitting in a cooped-up classroom being force-fed pointless facts.

    • Mandi, I totally agree with you, specifically your last couple of sentences. Real life experience + passion really do count for something!

  4. Our entire educational system is not designed around the student but designed for the professors and administrators to grow their own wealth and power. This is perpetuated by a business culture that favors education over experience. Life experiences are better educators than sitting in a lecture hall with hundreds of other students. the system is designed to remove creativity and to think in the same way as the professors, which leads to drones that graduate and enter their job (if they can get one) unable to think for themself.

  5. I wonder what percentage of your 89.5 k twitter followers are college students or high school students planning on attending? I think this story was quite a slap in the face. Would you post a story titled “7 reasons you should go to college” and slap the face of those not attending? I think you are sending a negative message to your collegiate followers and those graduating soon from high school. Maybe some teens are ready right out of high school to find these elusive online careers you are talking about. But for the most part our teens need to gain more education, experience and opportunity by attending college. The $50 k price tag you are throwing out there is not what they are actually paying. Most students I know have qualified for scholarships and grants, and have worked hard to get them. In a lot of ways, by posting your opinion, you are giving young adults an excuse for why they have not educated themselves further, and they are ready to follow you anywhere. Many recent stories from friends I have, noted that without this college degree, they wouldn’t have been able to get into the interview to show their portfolio or experience. While I enjoy your daily positive view, I was rather disappointed and sad that you would be so negative about your student followers who are making their lives richer by working hard and educating themselves. These college students follow you for your positive words that help push them toward their future. They don’t need you telling them they’ve made a mistake. This message was only positive to those not striving toward a college degree. What were you thinking?

    • If you ask a lot of college kids they’ll say it’s expensive and not worth the dollar amount and the education the got could definitely be cheaper.
      If you has some Rich white college kid I’m sure they’d agree that their college experience was totaly worth it (cus they didn’t have to worry about having money FOR college, for food clothes shelter and money to go out and party with friends -aka make friends, oh and TUTORS to get those scholarships) it’s all about perspective and if you’re stick up in your own arse and can’t see anything else then srsly come on and reconsider your paradigm (it’s what they yeah you at university).

      Also college students appreciate satire and most kids these days who play GTA and watch southpark SHOULD know about satire. Posting it here on the daily positive is great for people who have chosen the other route of non college and are often scrutinized and looked down upon, and to help college students realize that it’s almost a joke to be looking down on them because they have huge debts which their parents won’t pay for while their non college counterparts are getting real world work experience and saving the $$

      • Who the heck are you talking to? Most students I know are NOT rich, and plan on paying back their OWN student loans. They did not have tutors and surely did not watch South Park. Why does the race card have to be thrown in? Not all white people are rich. So your ignorance is pretty obvious. I’m sure you’re into Social Justice and that whole “everyone deserves what everyone else has” mentality. Well shock – you have to work for it. Everyone has an opportunity, and minorities have even more opportunity and offers for scholarships if that’s what they want and work toward it. You must watch Rachael Maddow to get all of your information. She did graduate from Stanford, did you know?

        I’m not saying everyone needs a college degree. I know many people who have worked in trade industries and are doing just fine. The beauty of it is that it has been THEIR choice. That’s right! people have a choice.

      • Excuse you, but I think that’s totally false. First of all, I feel like this video is pointing towards private universities; state-sanctioned universities tend to be much cheaper ($10k/year). I was a first-generation college student, my dad worked in a blue collar job. While in school, I worked full-time as a manager to pay for my education as I went– I ended up only having $4k in debt when I left, graduated. Let’s not forget the 100s of hours per year in which I performed scientific research AND volunteered to help at a non-profit hospice and clinic that gave health-care for those who were too poor to sign up for insurance. . . I graduated with Magna Cum Laude honors in Science, and am now in medical school. Tell me where the opportunities are for those who DON’T attend. We make our opportunities, whether or not we are in the upper class or not.

        • I totally agree with you MD2017. I think many of these students just take classes and party in college. They never look for the internships or opportunities that are right there but they’re too lazy or having too much fun to take part in. There are job fairs on campus and offers for externships. I think those with the sour grapes mentality and no job prospects after college are those who did not look into their future and do research on job prospects when there. Good for you MD2017 by supersizing your opportunity! And thank you for giving your example of college debt.

          • Lol! What a joke! I’m in college right now & I definitely don’t party & drink AT ALL. Some people here are very driven & focused… Suprise Suprise! This article makes no sense. More ppl struggle finding decent paying jobs because they DON’T have a college education. If you’re an entrepreneur then that’s another story. Sit back and think how many jobs require strict educational training that are necessary for our society to function the way it does. How dare anyone encourage someone not to educate themselves. Whether if be through experience or an institution, you need both!

            Btw, school does not cost $50,000 unless your talking about a private school. That’s an absurd number. & even if your talking about grad school… The plan is to invest the money in upper level education so there will be a high payoff in your future career. If that’s the case the loans will be no problem.

          • You are so right Alaina! thank you so much for sharing your experience
            and your views on cost. What would the world look like if we all tried
            to self educate online for free as per this story? If you stay focused
            and study hard, like it seems you are -you’ll do great. THERE’S YOUR
            DAILY POSITIVE! I’m sure you see students around that don’t care too
            much for the education part and are there for the fun. They graduate
            and wonder why they can’t get a job. They expect a job will just be
            handed to them. I think these are the people agreeing with this silly
            story. You seem like you’re on your way to success!

          • Hi Alaina! Really appreciate your thoughts. I was not encouraging people to not become educated, but I do believe there are additional ways people can learn and that college isn’t the only way to educate yourself. 🙂

        • Thank you for sharing your story! I love that you combined your education with life experience.

    • Hi Lucille, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. Please know I am not against education in the slightest. I encourage everyone I know to continue learning throughout their whole life. However, I do see a shift in the way people are learning, and I do believe that finding your passion and finding someone successful in that industry to mentor you equals life experience you may not always be able to find with a traditional education. I have more friends than I can count who are unable to find a career in their field of choice, and are left with massive amounts of debt from degrees they cannot use. I don’t believe one should choose a career based on the availability of the market either though. It’s not news to anyone that our general society lacks passion for what they do; most people seem to sort of end up in a career by no choice of their own, but just because they have bills to. I absolutely believe no on should ever stop learning, but I do stand by the statement that college is not the only answer anymore.

      • Hi Dale, Thanks for the reply. By the way this story was put forth, I don’t believe you were saying that “college is not the only answer.” You were saying “7 Reasons Shouldn’t Go to College.” Maybe you didn’t mean to but you were demeaning young adults with this video and making them double guess their choices. I am sure many of them really thought through what they want to do, along with their caring families. The way you portrayed education was snarky and patronizing.
        My point was, these teens and young adults sign up for your daily positive sayings to lift them up. I was surprised and disappointed by your story and satirically silly video attached to it. I know there are some cases of students choosing the wrong colleges, the wrong majors – but there are so many success stories too. Even though it would not be your choice, many of our young people are investing in college (at much lower rates than you quoted). Personally, I and many others would rather invest that money in education than in a car (which studies show is the average amount of student debt accrued at graduation).
        I just wish you would be more responsible with what you post. This is not a “one size fits all generation.

  6. My son, who is in his second year of college, would TOTALLY agree with this. I’m starting to think he is RIGHT!

  7. As a graduate of college and a year out I currently do not have a job in what I studied, alot of time energy and money went into going to college and I have to say that while I think its good to have a degree it was a waste. I don’t work in my field 1. Because its so hard to find jobs, how does a job want a recent grad with 5 years experience? and 2. Because I’m not really sure its what I want to do anymore, don’t get me wrong I would love to but its a big IF on whether I would be happy. You get the same education anywhere and it is extremely over-priced (I put myself through and did everything so I could make it free for me ex: scholarships, grants, working on campus for free housing) and still it was stressful for no particular reason. And my number one question had always been why do they train us for the same jobs so we are all doing the same thing, how come they don’t teach you about the fun jobs you could possibly get or something rewarding something I would love possibly. I want the jobs they don’t teach you about! I would enroll in that school really quick! I agree with the fact that college is set up for the faculty and not for the students.

  8. Oh my goodness… I have two sons that will be applying to college in the next 5 years. I’ve been telling them about college their whole lives but lately.. I don’t know.. Ugh!

    • I fully believe that passion and talent go a long way, and that life experience and just getting out and doing things is the best way to learn them! I’m absolutely not against learning and getting an education, but I believe there is more than 1 way to learn. 🙂

  9. Totally agree that college should not be the default after high school, but am I missing something? For a post titled “7 reasons…”, I’m only seeing a couple paragraphs and a youtube video. Am I just internetting wrong?

  10. I have been a pharmacist for 20 years. I have had a wonderful and lucrative career. When I applied to pharmacy school 25 years ago the admissions office needed to make sure I could handle the rigorous math + chemistry classes. Now a days admission offices mostly want the kids to have a Bachelors degree before applying. And half of the kids I encounter have Masters degrees before pharmacy school. These extra degrees do not enhance their ability to practice pharmacy. So let’s wrap this up in financial terms. In 2014, pharmacy school can cost $10,000+ (for the classes only) per year at a state school. It goes up to $35,000+ (for classes only) per year at a private school. From start to finish, a pharmacy program is 6 years long (2 years pre-pharmacy, but this could be erased if you have a science degree before applying, and the 4 years of the pharmacy program). Then you factor in the cost of the degrees the kids have before pharmacy school. And now for the icing on the cake. Pharmacy schools have been pushing for awhile post-graduate residencies. These are 12 months in length are are 1/3 the pay of what the graduate would be earning had they chosen to not do this and just work. So to wrap up the story for all you parents who are thinking about your Little Johnny going to pharmacy school lets do the math. First, bachelors degree = $100,000 – $200,000. Second, maybe the masters degree = $75,000. Third, the pharmacy degree = $50,000-$150,000 on upward. Then Little Johnny graduates with $400,000 in debt and in the future looks at buying a place to live. Now he has $700,000 in debt without counting all of life’s daily both seen and unseen expenses. I hope you parents turn off your televisions and start researching what life is like out there for these young kids.

    • Wow Rusty, that is extremely eye-opening. Really appreciate you taking the time to share

  11. I’ve only completed 2 years of college and am married with a kid, in the workforce, no college degree.

    This makes me feel a little better but I think one thing that is being overlooked is the network you create from college. Far more valuable than a degree in my opinion and no place better to establish an expansive one than college.

    Those connections can increase the success rate of job seeking after college 100 fold.

    “It’s not the grades you make, it’s the hands you shake.”

    • That’s a great point Lamdry! College is definitely one of the ways you can network. I don’t believe it’s the only place to network but it is definitely one of them 🙂

  12. Have you looked at job requirements lately? They want both: experience AND a degree. True enough, it doesn’t matter what you get your degree in unless its career specific (Accounting, Medical, etc) but to move through the Professional world, a B.S. or B.A. is pretty much a standard requirement for even entry level positions.

    However, I agree that this ISN’T the way that it should be. I feel that careers and job choices should be cultured from a younger age, including job shadowing and more internships to determine what it is that you even want to do, let alone what you like to do. I wanted to wait to get a degree until I knew what I wanted to do, but that’s nearly impossible to know without some sort of knowledge in and of the field and career that you’re looking at. Really, it’s rather ridiculous that our society runs how it does when it comes to education overall.

  13. Education is one of my favorite conversations because it is messy and hits everyone close to home. I am a sophomore in college and I can say from experience that this video is unveiling only part of the story. Like many of the comments below, being educated doesn’t really matter if you don’t have connections and experience.

  14. I am a college student in my second year or as I am suppose to be… I could not attend school this semester due to not being able to pay tuition. I graduted highschool as top 20% of my class with a 3.8 gpa and was in honors society. I received $0 in scholarships. Although I was above average I wasn’t above average enough… if that even makes sense? I worked hard due to the fact my mother had no college fund set up for me. Futhermore my mother is a single parent & my father barely helps us. I DID NOT recieve finacial aid, just goverment loans…. (if people are going to throw in the race card I am white). Our educational system is so messed up it truly upsets me. I fell into a deep depression after highschool ended and college has been difficult for me ever since.And I work hard, I currently have 3 part-time jobs. These jobs only get me through the week with buying food and paying for gas, there’s no room for savings. I don’t party AT ALL. I always thought college would be fun and a great learning exprience so far it has been filled with problems. Unfortunately, I am going to go back because I want to be a social worker to help kids and I can not do that without being certified by going to grad school.

    • How many colleges did you apply to? Here is Louisiana with a good ACT we can get the tops scholarship (a state-wide scholarship). Which last for 8 semesters as long as you keep your grades up. I have to take out a loan this yr too because it doesn’t pay for everything. But even when applying out of high school I got scholarships from private universities.

      Also, how involved were you in school organizations? Did you receive special awards in high school? Leadership positions? Colleges aren’t really just looking at high school academics anymore…. They want to see good grades & someone who can potentially contribute back to the university. Trust me… I know it’s frustrating that you have to have done everything under the sun to get a full scholarship. But pretty much every state is struggling with education funds right now

      • I only applied to one (maybe that was my problem), all the other colleges I got into were all on “instant decision day”. Also these schools were all in-state schools in New Jersey. I was actually an active member in 6 clubs including media club, key club, F.E.A, human relations, student government, and F.B.L.A. I was also inducted into the honors society and Spanish honors society. Unfortunately I did not hold any leadership positions. Yes it is frustrating. Looking back now, I believe my biggest issue was that I was not well informed.

    • Kelli, sounds like you are going to follow your passion, which is the most important thing. You are not afraid of a little hard work, and that will take you extremely far. Good luck to you!

  15. I have 2 sons that I can’t afford to send to a 4 year University! My oldest is currently attending a community college for the first two years because it’s FREE! Yea, I said FREE. Through a program called Tennessee Achieves, he only had to attend 4 meetings, do 8 hours of community service each semester and keep at least a C average while attending college. Now, our state is about to pass the “Tennessee Promise”. Every high school senior can go to a community college for FREE for their first 2 years in our state. I agree that programs are limited and you have to spend time taking classes that have nothing to do with your major, but it’s going to be worth it. His major is Criminal Justice and he just joined the Air National Guard. After 36 months in the guard, his GI bill will pay 100% of his tuition, $600 a year in books,and $900 in housing. So, once he heads off to a 4 year college to complete his BS, he’ll be almost debt free. He currently lives at home and is working with Americorp. The pay is very little, but he receives about $1200 every 6 months is an educational scholarship through the Americacorp program. My second son is 17 and has no idea what he is going to do after high school, but I know one thing for sure…he’s going to school. Tennessee Promise also pays for the first 2 years at a technical school as well. So maybe the younger one will go there and live at home until he figures it out. Your congressmen and Governor need to learn more about “Tennessee Promise”. Can you imagine the debt relief if your first 2 years were paid for? Does any employer consider where you went to college your first 2 years? NO! If your BS comes from the Universtiy of Tennessee, nobody cars where you spent your freshman and sophmore years.
    Good luck to each of you and STAY IN SCHOOL! Major in something that will get you a job and pay your bills. You can do things you like on vacation.

    • Interesting perspective. I’m not sure I agree with you on all fronts as I believe whole-heartedly that people are given passions for a reason. I believe we have a lack of passion in our society and that our students are not being encouraged enough to follow their hearts. It’s really incredible that your state has set up the program “Tennessee Promise”, that’s definitely a start to helping relieve the debt crisis! Really do appreciate you sharing your perspective. 🙂

  16. I think far to often, high school students are pressured into jumping into college right after the graduate HS and they have yet to have any experience that could help them make the path they want to go in life. I was not pressured by my parents to go to college right after HS, but they did take me on college visits, just in case I wanted to pursue that path. I ultimately took a gap year and traveled the world a little before I decided to go to college. Yeah, that pushed me back a year and a half, but I wouldn’t have it any other way. Too many times kids jump into college thinking they will figure their life out while taking 2 yrs of random gen ed classes and 4 years later they may have picked a major but they still have no idea what to do when they graduate college. I wish a gap year was more common in America, I think it would help the younger generation focus on what they really want to get out of life and if that gap year leads to going to college, awesome, and if leads to them never getting a degree, awesome, but they will definitely have a better sense of where they want their life to go.

    • I definitely went to college right after high school because “that’s what people do.” It took going to college to realize that college most definitely is not for everyone. I didn’t even want to use my degree for a job (I have a BA in Music); I wanted to work part time and have children, which is exactly what I’m doing. I’m also really upset because the degree program I was going for (Composition) was in such a sorry state that I quit after about 2 months but was too far along to go another route or quit. The last 2 of the 5 years it took me to get my degree I often wished I had done nursing.

      When my kids are college age (provided it hasn’t reformed) I’m totally fine with them waiting and working to decide what they want to do and if a traditional 4-year college is even what they need.

    • I love hearing about people who make a point to travel the world. Life experience and culture experiences really help people understand how massive our world is, and how many opportunities there are. This was so well said, Kylie!

  17. So here’s he kicker though. If college isn’t worth it, what do we do now? Please make an article about this, as I think it would definitely be a game changer for people like me. I’m 21, and skipped college, but am now stuck in a dead end job like in the beginning of the video. What else can we do but take those jobs, or suffer the lifetime of debt and frustration of college?

  18. Everyone has a stupid opinion. Of course those who go to college learn them difference between expressing a thoughtless opinion and stating facts that a more empirical.
    “Since I am more informed and less opinionated I have nothing to say.”

  19. All I know is I went to college, got a degree, make $3 more an hour than I did before I went, and owe $65,000 for it. For me, going to college was a huge mistake. Obviously not everyone has my same experience.

  20. The only reason I am posting a comment is because I hate it when articles make up statistics. The average annual cost of tuition is not over $50,000 a year.

  21. I have mixed feelings about this. My cousin hopped to several different colleges, spending over a 100k in school debt that my aunt paid for – because they could afford to despite the complaints of how much her education cost. At the same time it hasn’t really landed her anywhere on a career path, she’s approaching her 40s and can’t afford an apartment on her own and never has been able to. Whereas I have my own place, a full time stable job that pays less than $10 bucks an hour, but it has full benefits, a consistent schedule… but it’s just work. And while Im grateful for the work, I will never be able to do what I am passionate about. I won’t be able to send future any future kids to college, they will struggle like I struggle, trying to juggle work and education, trying to make rent, trying to stay independent, all the while watching years tick by because you can’t afford to go to school full time because you have bills to pay. Of all my cousins I am the only one that has not moved back in with my parents. But I’m not happy. Independent, yes, but not happy. I don’t want a job, I want a career on which to build my future. And just having a job simply isn’t enough. I suppose it depends on how you look at it and if you know what you want… in my opinion knowledge and education is worth seeking for its own sake. I may not get the job I desire because the industry I want to be in is finicky with high competition, but it could make the difference between owning property down the line versus renting it, being able to travel and see the world, and really just have a better quality of life. Some people can grow and do amazing things with just a job, they can go on to get salary jobs etc, but not everyone can or even is passionate about doing so. I know for me, I want the education because that will build a foundation for me where I can not only be comfortable, but be happy with my quality of life. And if I absolutely HAVE to keep doing the same job because I can’t find a better one, I can, but it doesn’t mean I have to settle. My best friend worked his butt off to go to USC, got his Masters, used his degree to make money outside of work, and is currently looking at houses to own and he’s only a couple years older than me. If any one could be a model for college done right, it definitely would be him. Any money he spent on his education he’s made back times two.

    I understand college isn’t for everyone. All in all I am trying to say that there are just as many reasons not to go as there are to go, and I don’t know if I would say that discouraging college education is the best way to approach the current problem with the system.

    • Great perspective! I am not actually discouraging traditional education however, just challenging people to think for themselves and providing the question that perhaps things are beginning to change. You do not have to go to college to be successful, and you do not have to go to college to learn. But I know there are successful people because of college who have learned tremendously! It definitely can go both ways. I’m just simply stating that you can seek an education outside of college in addition to it. Life experience definitely counts for something! Thanks for sharing Candy!

  22. Nope I wouldn’t suggest it unless you’re going into something health or science related (like nursing or engineering or computer science). If you go in for an arts degree like I did, it’ll likely get you a job as a secretary out of school, IF you’re lucky.

  23. I completed a Bachelors degree with 3 majors in only 3 years as a single mother paying my own tuition. While I did learn a lot of relevant information during my time in college, it’s imperative to understand that a piece of paper isn’t what gets you a job. It represents your commitment to making yourself a better, more well-rounded individual. Getting a degree isn’t always fun, but neither is working. Your success in life is based on your efforts, and a degree is a starting point. I pay my student loans every month – Do I like it? …No more than paying my mortgage! By this article’s logic, no one should by a home either. I have a great job that affords me a great life – and I would absolutely never suggest as a blanket statement that individuals forego an education.

      • I think you mean that a degree doesn’t guarantee you a job, not student loans. However a mortgage pmt doesn’t guarantee you a house. If you don’t take the necessary measures to care for your home, it will become dilapidated and depreciated and you will still have that mortgage pmt. Same goes for your efforts after a degree. If you don’t make smart decision regarding your education and employment, your out of luck. There’s an incredible amount of entitlement in our society today, and it needs to be clear that success requires hard work and effort. No matter if you have a degree or not, you won’t be successful without hard work.

    • well put! all the people complaining are looking for excuses. They just assume that once you graduate people will come knocking on your door to offer jobs. This is not to say that they are not looking for jobs. But, i worked 50 hours a week and went to school full time. paying for my rent, living expenses and school myself. I worked hard. I also learned how to find opportunities to better myself and meet people that may help me get a job after school. Volunteering and internships were important to me, to put myself out there. Because of this networking, i was able to interview at several places and was offered many different opportunities. I am not saying that graduates do not have a difficult time finding jobs….but it is what you put into it!

    • As I have mentioned in a couple other comments, this article was written to challenge people to think for themselves. Although I’m not actually against college education (I’m absolutely FOR anyone who is seeking to learn anything!), I do believe college isn’t the only place anymore to get one. I also believe life experience and passion will go a long way. 🙂 Thank you for your perspective!

  24. I would not recommend going to post secondary school. I just recently graduated from University and I cannot find a job. In today’s society employers don’t look at degrees a person has anymore – it is all about connections. People with connections get jobs. People with degrees don’t. Yes some people do but it seems like more and more graduates are having a harder time finding a job. Instead of taking the time to get a degree that may not even help someone out in finding a career, an individual should focus on developing connections and working up from the bottom to get a career that they could stay in for the rest of their life

    • agreed in some ways. It is actually about both. You need to have strong connections, but alot of these opportunities for these careers would not exist without you having a bachelors. It is generally required in order to apply for the position. The job I have, I would have never been eligible for unless i had a degree. That is what life is about. Who you know. I am sorry you are having a hard time, but going to school is more about learning to grow as an individual. i am sorry you see your education as a waste.

  25. If you don’t want to go to college that’s fine, but telling someone that wants to further their education Isnt a good idea is completely wrong in my opinion. What if someone wants to be a teacher, doctor, lawyer, ect.? I believe this is a 100% personal decision. Besides, if you really want to go to college so you can have your dream job, you’ll make it possible no matter what the cost, especially if you truly believe that the final outcome will be rewarding! Don’t you need to give in order to recieve? Remember, anything you put your mind fully into can be achieved.

    • now THIS is the problem with society today. Telling kids that they can achieve anything they want with hard work and dedication is NOT TRUE! Not everyone is smart enough to get into med school, law school, vet school, etc. I know someone whose dream it was to be a veterinarian. She went to undergrad for an animal science pre-vet major. She worked her butt off! Applied to vet school 3 different times and still didn’t get in. Now she has a useless degree, debt, and is in a job she could have gotten right out of high school. I agree with what you are saying… but the dreams have to be practical.

      • That’s fair enough but I wouldn’t want to be the person telling your friend “You’re not smart enough to be a vet” before she even tried. People have to set their own dreams. I don’t see anything wrong with instilling the idea that hard work and dedication are how to get where you want to go. It’s not going to make a klutz into a ballerina, but it will help most people achieve their best.

    • I agree with that last sentence whole-heartedly 🙂 I just do not believe college is the only way to get an education.

  26. It’s not ALL post secondary education that is useless. Employers most certainly do look at degrees. Many positions require it. If you want entry level positions maybe some won’t require a degree but many upper level positions do require degrees. Working for a government agency most often will require degrees. It’s irritating to read this. No you can’t just pick any degree and assume you are now more valuable. You have to choose a degree that makes sense and still feeds your passions. I began as an assitant in social w my associates degree. Loved it went for my Bachelor’s. My first job upon completion of my degree tripled my income from starting wages and double what had been my most recent assistant position. And now I work for the State of Washington. Also w increased wages and benefits. School can benefit anyone. Problem is if you’re just going to be a lifelong student then you’re not really applying yourself. Connection help but they only add a little extra. You still have to have a degree and skills.

    • Definitely appreciate hearing your perspective! However, I do not believe you have to have a degree to be successful. I believe times are changing and that life experience and passion will take you a long way, so long as you apply yourself 100%, never stop learning and seek out a mentor.

  27. College is about getting an education. It is priceless. What a person does with it is up to them. Don’t deny your children an education based on this nonsense. No one can take your education away from you, but everything else can be gone in a short moment. The confidence young adults get from working hard and away from home will serve them for the rest of their lives. An eduction, just like a job or a career, and life in general, is all about what you make of it, so work hard, get the grades, and make the most of it. A Mom of 4 kids, all with graduate degrees, who would have it no other way.

    • Definitely! I just do not believe college is the only place to acquire education, is all 🙂

  28. As soon as i read the title, I knew there were going to be lots of moms comments jajajaja. But I agree with Dale, it is a huge debt, more than getting knowledge, you are getting a huge debt that God only knows when you are going to be able to pay it. And yes all of that knowldege is for free on the internet! However, it needs a great amount of work, and discipline and will to learn that way. Also, you can work midtime while doing it, so you can start saving. There is nothing that can keep you from learning, and at the end, your degree is just a paper.

    Now Dale, Just when I thougth I couldn’t like you any better, you post a Ryan video! 😀 I lo ve that guy, and I agree!

    I am a teen btw

  29. Going to college is only a waste of time and money if you are majoring in something that has horrible employment rates, being outsourced, or replaced by technology. Also people need to consider the cost of their school based on expected income. If you are studying education than don’t go to a private or out-of-state school….you’ll never be out of debt. It all comes down to making smart, informed decisions!

  30. I find it somewhat comical that people posting during the day are against college, while those posting later in the day (after working hours) are for college. Seems to me the college supporters have jobs and are too busy to post during the day. Hmmm….

    • Ha I’m not sure that’s the truth as there are many jobs outside the hours of 9-5, but interesting way to look at it. 🙂

  31. This video is a perfect example of why we have such an “entitled” society that doesn’t seem to value hard work anymore. Going to college isn’t just about the education that you receive. It’s also about learning time management, accountability, & discipline. I paid off my (self-financed) undergraduate degree and MBA in the first three years of my career and I was earning a six figure salary by the age of 29. How many of you without degrees can say that?

    • I’m 22 I have no college degree and I make 6 figures selling windows… I’m not alone. I hustle my ass off to be successful, unlike many of my graduated counterparts working delivery pizza gigs or stuck waiting tables developing drug and alcohol problems.

      • College was not for me. I tried four different times. I ended up working hard in medical sales (entry position) at 29, I’m 34 and now OWN my own surgical distribution company. I’m with Zach! Work hard, hustle, and you can definitely make a six figure salary without a college degree! Way to go, Zach!

    • I think Jaime, Zach, and Renee all make the same point, in a way- work your ass off with a degree, or work your ass off without a degree. You will be successful if you work hard. I think Jaime may have been making the point that a lazy person with a college degree is still just a lazy person. Then again there is the part about “how many of you without degrees…” But….

  32. Totally agree with this, except the part about unclogging toilets. My husband makes over $20 an hour as a plumber and didn’t have to go to college to become one. He has gotten 4 raises in the past year and truly enjoys his work. I think if you are willing to work hard and get your hands dirty you can find a job that pays well.
    Trade school is a wonderful option if you are willing to do a job that involves physically hard work.

    • Great perspective Natalie 🙂 Hard work really does go a long way, regardless of education.

  33. I feel sorry for the old people because they’re being replaced by younger and more agile adults.

  34. I went into teaching. The courses I took were the stupidest, theory-driven, waste of time classes ever invented. I took Russian Literature much to my space cadet, liberal advisor’s wishes because I wanted to LEARN something. The college curriculum is even worse now. It is a money making enterprise paying exorbitant salaries for professors and screwing the students every which way but sideways. Colleges know the government will foot the bill and charge outrageous prices for books, equipment and tuition. The wave of the future is the trades which, if not taken over by foreigners, will pay much more in the coming years than a college degree.

  35. I”m debating for my daughters. If they are going into a field that needs it, I would completely encourage it! But, if their whole life’s goal is to be a mommy, I don’t think they want to do that with $300K of loans on their backs. Just praying about what their purpose in life is and how to handle all this in the best way!

    • We are also entrepreneurs and don’t make any money off our our direct fields of college education, though we do use knowledge gained there, but mostly from “real life” jobs 😉

    • OMG>>>> I just watched the video. I know this guy. He’s friends with some close friends of ours….and he makes sooooo much money–making videos and getting YOUTUBE followers and sponsorships! That is so funny! I don’t think he went to college for that 😉

  36. College is overrated. Unless you’re going for personal enrichment (that’s what I’m doing) or to get qualified for am in-demand career it’s a waste of time. College isn’t for everyone. Don’t go just because that’s what society says do. At the end of the day, they won’t be the ones paying off your debt.

  37. I had to go back to college because our economy took a down turn and now the competition is fierce to get a job in my field. Experience doesn’t cut it anymore. They want experience and a degree. So those with a degree and no experience and screwed, so are the ones with experience and no degree. I have gone back to college, as a single mom of two special needs kids. I go part time and currently do not have debt, as I live on a very strict budget and apply for grants/scholarships. There are ways to attend school without all the debt if you plan ahead, do the work, and don’t try to live above your means. Sometimes an education is more important than the whole “college life” experience.

    Would I recommend college? If they are going into a field where employees will be in demand and debts are bigger than the potential income.

  38. As a 21-year-old who has most definitely felt the pressure from society to attend college, it’s refreshing to see that I’m not the only one that feels it’s a HUGE waste! The pro-college argument is always based on how much more money you’ll make, but what about the years and YEARS of debt that follows?! I almost feel like people look down on me when they find out I don’t go to school, but I’ve had steady jobs since I was 15, and I think I’ve done pretty well for myself so far without a degree. Love this video!

  39. What’s even worse about the college system is hearing stories from students not learning anything even with the good money they are spending. I had a friend that had to go to the dean and ask for a refund because information systems teacher could not even navigate the target website – he literally record his class to show there was no value! They gave him a refund but the professor is still employed and I would bet that all those other students didn’t get a refund. Just sad that they think a degree makes people better candidates.

  40. I definitely agree that the way our society sees college right now is faulty- it has basically become the new high school degree. But I also take issue with the part of the video that says “because you’ll be doing all the work” as though that is part of a scam. How can you expect to get an education without working for it? How can you expect someone else to do it for you?
    The ideal of a college degree is that you come out the other side with 4+ years worth of hard-earned education. The reality is that many students just pay for the “education” while they party for 4+ years, and then feel entitled to better jobs and salaries. Yes, the colleges/universities are to blame for taking money and churning out graduates, but also look at the students who will grade-grub, cheat/copy and argue if they don’t pass a class.
    If you want to work for a good education, you can get it almost anywhere. Never blame someone else because you haven’t learned what you could have.

    • I really have an issue with the idea that students are doing all the work, too. I have been a lecturer and taught rooms full of students- it might not look like work but it requires a lot of skill to be able to do well (and I am not saying that I have ever done it well). Just because you think professors sit in their office and do nothing does not mean its true.

      Totally agree that too often nowadays students think they shouldn’t have to work for things.

  41. I’m getting a PhD so obviously college was necessary for me, but I am not someone who would ever push kids into attending a 4 year liberal arts school like I did if academia is not their thing. In fact I know several really smart kids who I think will be better off going to a trade school rather than an expensive school. However, I do warn them to pick a trait wisely and chose something that can’t be outsourced like dental Hygienist, electrician, etc.

  42. An interesting thought starter but what’s your solution? You have a great video that will surely encourage some people to not attend college. And while I do believe that college isn’t for everyone, are you suggesting that someone learn a trade or industry on their own? How does someone who does that, which is possible, compete in a marketplace where employers look for degrees? Where competition is stiff and jobs are at a minimum?

  43. College is not for everyone, but giving “reasons not to go to college” is misleading. A degree is a tool to leverage yourself into a career that requires an education. It is possible to make a good living as a plumber or a salesman, but there is a limit on the positions you can hold without a Bachelor’s degree. It is also insulting to those of us who chose to earn a degree to insinuate that we have not worked as hard as those who opt for jobs that do not require a degree. I earned a full scholarship for college and still worked full-time as a bartender to have savings. I now am a full-time graduate student with a tuition waiver, and I STILL work full-time so I don’t have to take out loans for living expenses.

    Furthermore, putting yourself into $250k debt is not the only way to get a college education. Choose in-state public schools. Choose community college for the first couple of years. Work. The argument should not be “reasons not to go to college;” rather, the argument should be “Five Possible Paths to the Career You Desire” (or whatever number happens to fit the list). The financial struggles aren’t a direct result of the decision to go to college. They’re a result of a really bad choice of school.

  44. I think even before college people would and will always believe in themselves visualise think nice and make moves B*jamin Aye0*=D!

  45. I went to college, took a bunch of extra courses I thought were a waste of time and money. I went because it was expected of me from my parents. I have friends who have taken programs that are basically preparatory or to help them get ready for college, personally I think that should happen before college. Most college students will not take college seriously because it is a time to learn and discover about yourself, and like me, my college days were a time to enjoy my freedom away from my parents. Went from fresh out of high school and into college. I partied a lot and I didn’t take my studies seriously. I really had not found myself nor knew my passion in life was so I took a program which description seemed interesting to me. It was a waste of time and money. I went on to university though and it was by far a better experience because I was more mature and responsible for my actions. It really opened my mind because I took courses that I chose and had major interests and passion for.

    I am a mother of a 12 year old now and I’ve told him that it is his choice to go to college or go straight to university AFTER he knows where his passion lies. I encourage him to really get to know myself and I do my best to motivate him to do his best. Right now he’s aiming for the NHL and at the same time is considering going the Canadian Forces. I tell him he needs to feed his interests so when the day comes for him to decide what to do, he can follow his heart.

    Don’t get me wrong college is very hands on, however, that time of a young person’s life is critical and should be spent on self discovery. It’s no fun going to college when you don’t know or aren’t sure if you want to be in that chosen field.

    Quotes on education from past famous people and great leaders all have a high esteem about it, but it’s sad education systems have become more about money. There are even teachers/instructors who are there just for the money.

    “Much education today is monumentally ineffective. All too often we are giving young people cut flowers when we should be teaching them to grow their own plants.” John W. Gardner

  46. and if to think that a person has no college degree its hurt too much, if it doesnt matter anymore for seeking job, try to make all possible to give what wants,
    cause we have our youth years once a life

  47. Soo what ARE the 7 reasons? Because the only one I see is that it’ll put you in debt. What’s the alternative though? I would love to see a list of jobs you can get without going to school.. because I just haven’t come across these in the job search yet.

    • I think the 7 reasons are included in the video?

      I know this question was posted 6 months ago, but there are plenty of jobs you can do without a college degree.. in fact I’d say learning how to market yourself (marketing) effectively is probably the most important skill any young people should learn, which doesn’t require a degree.

      I live in the UK, and most marketing/copywriting/web developer roles do not require degrees. As my colleague once said…”you either know how to code Ruby on Rails, or you don’t… you either know HTML, CSS and SEO or you don’t”. A degree is irrelevant for those kinds of roles, I’m pretty sure a Salesforce Architect/Administrator doesnt require a degree either.

      There are roles out there, people just aren’t looking hard enough.

      If anyone is wondering what else you should do other than go to college.. I’d say.. start building skills the kind of employers you’d like to work for are interested in…

  48. This is stupid. You should encourage people to do whatever they WANT to do. I don’t really see how it’s your place to post something like this, other than you clearly didn’t go to school and now you feel the need to defend yourself. What people choose to do with their time is no one’s business except the person’s time who is being spent. Education is what you make of it. Maybe you should ask a surgeon if they feel that their education wasn’t necessary. I personally would prefer to pay someone that I know invested time in studying for whatever they are getting paid to do.

  49. I will begin by saying that I have a masters in Higher Education and would encourage EVERYONE to go to college if they have the chance. College is an opportunity to expand your horizons beyond what work and family life can offer.

    Your implication that everything can be self taught is relatively short sighted. The problem is people don’t know what they don’t know. Especially today with so much misinformation on the web I would never encourage people to just go learn from the internet. I can only speak from my experience, but if I were only to recreate other people’s work in my job I would not be employed very long and that is what an internet education would afford me.

    However, since I am a professional in higher education I have seen personally those students who are only there to party and blow off class. I would amend your post to “7 reasons you shouldn’t go AWAY to college.” Too many students put the value of their education on the residence halls, frat parties, and student unions to realize that these have very little to do with the quality of their education.

    My son will definitely understand the the dollars and cents of his degree. I will never co-sign a loan for him when he can go to the community college down the street for much less.

    I will say, if you can get a professional job before going to school then go for it, since most offer some kind of tuition reimbursal.

  50. I tried to go to college several times but wasn’t mature enough to stick it out. I’m now older and wiser, holding down two jobs, knowing in the field I am in I could do much better if I at least took the courses I needed to become certified. However, I do see that much can be done, especially taking on a physically intense job that one learns by trade and do very well. I have always thought that was a better way anyhow. Not everyone is cut out for college. I think I am one of those people…

  51. I completely agree with this article. I was never going to be a doctor, lawyer, and cringe at the thought of being a teacher. I now work as a trade show coordinator. I’m 26, Make enough money to support myself and enjoy life, and my 4 yr Bachelor’s Degree was a waste of time and money. Young people buy into the old lie, and tradition that you need to go to college right after you graduate. I can’t name 5 things I learned in college that helps me in my position now.

  52. I went to college and agree with this article. I’m applying to jobs in my field and noticed that experience is more important lately. People without college degrees who have worked in my field for the past year are getting the positions that I’m applying for. It makes me sad, but I have to work hard and start at jobs that only require a high school diploma in order for me to get to a position with a salary that justifies what my parents and I paid for in out of state tuition at an accredited university. I cringe when I read the job descriptions on online applications saying that the position only requires a high school diploma, but the position right above it requires 3 to 4 years of experience and a bachelor’s degree. I used to be very involved in school and one of my positions was as a recruiter and gave campus tours. Whenever I found out people were trying to be in my major or something similar, I just wanted to tell them to just go ahead and work retail and they’ll be further ahead in 4 years than what they would be starting fresh with a college degree. Looking back today, I’m proud of my college degree and what I have accomplished at school, but I would’ve gotten a part time job instead of being involved on campus or maybe taken on less extracurricular activities. My advice to everyone: even if your parents pay for you to go to school and living costs, get a part-time job that you like. It looks significantly better than 2 internships and being involved on campus.

  53. Hello,

    I’m 19 and currently attending a local community college. I want to be a writer; I’ve been working on a book that’s been in development for at least a decade (I’ve always had a very active imagination) and I’ve been working to get it written and ready for publishing for almost four years now. It should be ready for publishing within another year, year and a half. It’s been in the back of my mind for a while now, since my Junior year of high school, that I’m not sure I want to spend time and money transferring to a four-year university. Through the research I’ve done so far, it seems like I can get by just fine with a high school education or even a two year AA degree (which I believe I can get with another dozen amount of units). And that the money that a degree would get me doesn’t mean much considering the amount of debt the degree puts me in.
    I realize that ultimately the decision is up to me, but it’s a really tough decision for me to make. College is weighed so heavily and even though I would bet the world on my dreams becoming a reality, I’m not totally sure if I want to go against what seems to be the norm. For the literary career I’m looking to be in (fiction writer), would anyone recommend me getting a degree? I’ve been telling people I’m reaching towards an English degree with a minor in Film (or possibly Psychology. I haven’t decided yet.) I’ve been trying to get a job, and if I have to work retail for whoever knows how long I will.

    Basically, I’d just like some advice… haha. Thank you.

    • It really depends on how active you are. There are a large number of young people at college, so a lot of crazy shit happens there that could easily be incorporated into an interesting scene in a book, but at the same time if you sit in a dorm all day and don’t at the very least hang with the people on your floor, you wont hear about it.

  54. I am in graduate school because I wasn’t able to get a job in my area with my bachelors degree. Turns out, there is a much bigger crisis in my field because we are sending way too many people to college. There are way too many overqualified PhDs than there are jobs available… They’re experts in one area and that’s it. I am not against education at all. I grew up surrounded by teachers and I understand the value of knowing things to help others. Going to graduate school is just another way of sheltering yourself from the real world. I know I was, and I went through a major breakdown because of this. I teach undergrads who have no interest in what I teach whatsoever. They are only wasting their time and their money. It only perpetuates the cycle. I was so blind when I started graduate school. Even in the world of academics, it’s pretty much like it is in the corporate world (or worse, since there are less spots/ funding). You have to climb at the cost of losing your integrity and your values. This is not what I signed up for. I feel like we are so worried about people having a degree and knowing more than others, but the real problem is, what kind of citizens are we creating for this world? Sure, we know more, but we are also less empathetic and more cruel. We need to educate and nurture the soul, as well as the mind. That’s the big problem. All we are doing is getting more data, inventing more devices, generating scientific breakthroughs (I work in the science field), but really, the world doesn’t need any of that. The world needs more compassion and understanding towards one another. I cannot fathom a world where my scientific discovery, or my knowledge will be more important than helping my neighbor. The world doesn’t need another scientific breakthrough. The world needs our humanity.

  55. I would never have been able to pursue my career in international development without a college degree plus I was introduced to many intellectual and cultural ideas and classes that have been very important for my personal growth.

  56. depends. im from the netherlands and at the performatory we basically design our university program ourselves which is actually a community of professionals and learners. we’re supported and stimulated to work from our values and to get our creativity going and conduct real life projects. yes we get a bachelor degree in social innovation, or you could even go for a master degree, but that’s more a formality. it’s actually about the experience and the network.

  57. Can a video make you laugh and cry at the same time? Well this one did. After 8 years and 3 degrees, I know a little about the college business. I can honestly say that I have learned 90% of what I do from on the job training…the other 10% from my Masters Degree. The one good thing college did do was keep me out of trouble in my 20’s and opened the door for me to have the job I have now. No worries, I have a plan, my loans should be paid off by the time I retire in 2034…LOL…sniff sniff

  58. Can a video make you laugh and cry at the same time? Well this one did. After 8 years and 3 degrees, I know a little about the college business. I can honestly say that I have learned 90% of what I do from on the job training…the other 10% from my Masters Degree. The one good thing college did do was keep me out of trouble in my 20’s and opened the door for me to have the job I have now. No worries, I have a plan, my loans should be paid off by the time I retire in 2034…LOL…sniff sniff

  59. So true. I can confirm from the inside. Higher education has turned into a capitalist cash grab and because of this the quality of education has suffered greatly. What else can one expect when the prime aim is customer satisfaction. Students don’t know what they need to know yet they get to dictate what they want to know. In other words, the inmates run the institution now and ofc quality is out the window because the inmates don’t want to bust ass and work hard they want to party all the time and have every second class cancelled.

  60. This article is really swaying my opinion on what I want to do after high school. I want to be an editor, which there isn’t an actual degree for that. College has always scared me, because the thought of being in debt and having no sure way to pay it back is something that I really do not want to go through. I think that maybe just really working hard and taking actual jobs and network myself out there will help with what I want, rather than spending years at a college.

    • You do not need a college degree to be a writer, editor, journalist, ect. In fact, you could go to you local Editorial company, or somewhere close to where you live, and ask to have an interview for an editing position. You could also go to a news station and ask to go along for interviews and the like. I made the mistake of going for just that (read my comment above). So my advice is to not go to college.

    • You could go to a trades school and intern at a large or small publication or magazine company, even the local newspaper is an option. Don’t give up on a dream because your counselor told you that your field of choice is not STEM or Standard Tier Education Merit (my STEM educated mothers joke) worthy. These days being an Editor is actually highly profitable if you are good at it, that’s the trick though you have to be good at it due to so many wannabe bad eggs in specialized fields with no talent looking to make a quick buck.

      But if you are good, go for it and aim for top editor positions that are desperately needed.

  61. God, I wish I knew this before. I graduated high school back in 2012. I took a year off, and not finding anything I wanted to do with life, I decided to go to college. I started back in 2013, for only a semester and I hated it. I hated the people, I hated the teachers, and I especially hated the cost factor. Only going for a semester, a SEMESTER, cost me $13k. Yea, I owe 13 thousand dollars for a semester of college. I am 20, still living at home because all of my money is being spent towards paying off my debt and the rest is going towards feeding myself. I can’t focus on saving and moving out to looking for a better job that I want to work. I have to wait until this is paid off. I can’t imagine going for four to six years and having to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars the rest of your life. I may still be living at home a couple years from now. In fact, my cousin went to college to be a bio engineer. I’m not too certain on how many years she had to go, but after she graduated, the only place she was able to get a job was at McDonalds. This was back when I was either 15 or sixteen at the time. So, about five or six years later, she being early thirties is living at home due to not being able to spend her money on anything else. She is still working at McDonalds, while her $600k diploma is catching dust. College is pointless and a waste of time. I barely made it through high school and contrary to popular belief, college is no different. I have other things I want to do with life other than being confined to a desk and be given a lecture that has nothing to do with what I was originally going to college for.

    • Welcome to the club, fellow 2012 graduate and I’ve now attempted college twice. I hated it, I really just started looking at customer service rep jobs for cable companies and banks because those have good advancement opportunities and only require a GED or diploma. I’d rather skip the debt and settle for a job that starts small and can turn into something beneficial down the road.

  62. I think getting a college degree still holds true. You just have to get a degree that will most likely pay off in the end. Keep in mind you must also enjoy the subject matter being covered by your degree. I am currently in school for electrical engineering and I love it. Engineering is always a safe bet to go into. For every two jobs out there, there is only one qualified engineer. Here at k State 90% of graduating engineers have a job before they graduate, and I’m talking jobs pertaining to their major. So go to school kids! Unless you’re going for something like a business major. Then that’s when I’d say book it! It Isn’t worth it!

    • I forgot one thing, when your parents tell you to do your work and try hard in high school, do it! Debt is only for those that can’t secure scholarships or just didn’t try hard enough.

      • manny that is not true. Some people have financial hardships even before they enter the college system. And believe it or not, everyone can’t apply and receive scholarships because in certain situations, a scholarship can actually hurt you by reducing the current aid you have. Don’t be so quick to make definitive statements that are not a hundred percent true. Just because your particular situation may be unique in that you perhaps didn’t have any debt, doesn’t mean that others who do have it brought it upon themselves.

  63. I love nigahiga 🙂 Glad he’s getting some attention. But, like alipondro said, what exactly are the 7 reasons?

  64. I’m sort of on the fence about attending college. I want to get into passive income (real estate, youtube, blogging, etc) but I also want a backup plan, that is become a veterinary assistant. Vet assistants don’t require a degree in Animal Science, though, they’re just preferred. And I really want to further my education, I just don’t know if college is the best way to do that. Now that I’m saying this outloud, I think I just might bag college. Nobody needs that ish.

  65. I’m not really sure where the 7 reasons are but…I’d just like to say that the point of this article is impossible to apply to medical or scientific fields. In other fields, there are usually alternatives to going to college. But if you’re looking to become a doctor, nurse, scientific researcher, or engineer, college is completely necessary. I wish there had been a disclaimer on this article revealing this caveat of the all-encompassing belief that you can “make it” without college. Having medical practitioners without college (and medical school/residency) education would provide the world with doctors and nurses no better than those in the 1800s, besides knowing it’s healthy to wear gloves and disinfect the skin. There is so much knowledge to be gained from going to medical school, or having a bachelor’s degree in immunology to work at the CDC/WHO, or having an engineering degree to work in several fields.

    But I feel a point that cannot be stressed enough is that for these fields where you MUST go to college, there is no guarantee you will have a job afterwards if you don’t network and reach out to people already successful in the field. I am only a high school senior now but I have already volunteered at a local medical center, an easy program that turned into an opportunity for me to shadow the manager of their Heart & Vascular department. Now, I am meeting patients (with their consent of course), observing vascular surgeries IN the procedure room (!!!!), and getting great advice from doctors, nurses, and medical students. I have also become a Red Cross volunteer at a blood donation center. So these activities now are helping me connect with people who can guide and advise me in my future. And when I do internships and volunteering and research assisting with professors during college, I will be able to create a strong network of people who can recommend me for paying jobs, while also getting in-depth experience that is attractive to people who are hiring. Just think of your future boss: would they rather hire someone with great education/experience who’s a stranger, or someone like you with great education/experience who is strongly recommended by a friend or colleague of the boss?

    • But at the same time you are going into one the most corrupt fields you could choose with one of the highest rates of cheating in classes and on the job; not to mention the medical field is narcissist heaven. There are plenty of well trained nurses and doctors who only went to med school to make big money and really don’t give a damn about the patients, I know a girl at the place I work who is going into the psychiatric field only because it pays well; so she can make tons of money in her private unmonitored practice where she most likely will end up making her cash by over medicating her clients.. I have talked to med students that agree most of their peers don’t have passion or drive for helping others they are in med school solely for the payout, and then there is the really dark side of medicine as well.

      The issue with any degree is these days you could quite literally be the worst at what you do but if you schmooze up to the right person (and cheat, steal, and lie) you get into a great job and do horribly at it, but the guy who recommended you will keep you afloat and defend you not because you are good at what you do but because if you get fired he might.

      In the medical field hiding mistakes that cost patients thier lives is commonplace, properly trained means nothing when you either don’t keep your skills up to date or you don’t care and only want your paycheck. I could tell you a few instances where my own life was threatened due to mistakes, and do not get me started on the issue of liability and bad doctors/nurses and the “halo effect” of being in the medical field so you must be a kind caring person with loads of love in your heart and obviously a NA is trained in every medical field known to man (seriously people believe this) when the truth is far different. Don’t get me wrong my mum was in the medical field and she did great up until she burned out due to being one of the few people at the time spear heading research into traumatic brain injuries and literally giving it her all. But she told me things that happen behind hospital doors that should be in a book, as in a fiction novel and they weren’t bed time stories these were things that happened at the hospital.

      Yes if you are in a medical, science, or engineering/electrical field you should go to college but the question is do you want to be in those fields? I could of gone into electrical and gotten accepted into a private trades school (I was invited) with a near perfect placement rate and been a third generation high voltage specialist with multiple other skills and gotten hired immediately. Thanks to my mums achievements I could of ridden her coat tails and gone into the medical field, if I focused on neurophysiology or neural trauma, brain injuries, and epilepsy chances are I would of ended up in a job that paid me tons a few years before graduating and been lauded as the prodigal child of so and so. I could of gone into Law and since I have a cousin or three who are very successful in law I could have had a job easily, riding their coat tails all the way to the bank.

      However I did not want to do that, when I graduated high school I had no real idea of what I wanted to do except that I wanted to make innovative products and designs that would change the world but as far as I knew there was no degree for that outside of engineering and architecture (and I was rebelling so no way I was doing either of those). So I went to a technical/trades school, my folks were annoyed and I ended up in a Business Management degree that later turned into a degree I had no idea existed prior to going to college called “Graphic Design” a degree I know people will insult as not being STEM and so not a worthwhile degree. However what your High School and college counselors won’t tell you about specialty degrees like Graphic Design, Fashion Marketing, Visual Communications, Architecture Design, and other so called “dead end fields” is that those dead end fields pay dividends if you are really good and innovative. Those dead end fields also make your day to day life possible, I’m serious.

      If you are a doctor you can be horrible but unless you get sued for malpractice you get paid for being a doctor, if you are a lawyer same deal, but in a specialty degree you have to be good or you don’t get paid.

      And if you want to make the real money you have to be innovative not just creative, creative nets you the 40-50k salary tops; innovative nets you the crazy deal with Waterford Crystal that you dreamed of doing an ad campaign for in Typography class (I’m still dreaming of that one). You have to be on top of trends and able to look ahead to future trends, you need not just learned skills like where to cut and how to use this machine but talent and a true originality that stands out from the crowd.

      Honestly I think that people need to start going into degrees that are more specialized and can still be gained without insane amounts of debt, that’s just my viewpoint and I did just graduate with my degree all of less than a month ago so I am no expert by any means I was just trained by them. With all of my heart I hope you are going into the medical field because you care about the patients and want to make a difference, because you have to do what you really love in life or else regardless of degree you won’t be happy and as a result you won’t excel in your field of choice.

  66. I agree you can be successful in some fields without a degree, however college is an experience everyone should have. I graduate this coming May and I started my college experience having no clue what I wanted to do. It was on campus that I realized I wanted to go into the fitness and health field and thanks to one of my professors I decided I wanted to be a Physical Therapist. Not only have I found out what my passion is (I have volunteered at many clinics and realized it is the career for me) but I have gained so much useful information over the years. I know so much more than I did when I came into this university. I also realized that I love science and I almost wish I minored in Chemistry. Also, thanks to my latest physiology course I learned useful information that actually comes in handy in the real world. I’m finishing my final semester taking classes that are so interesting to me and I really do love going to school because of this. I highly recommend college for everyone. It’s true you won’t necessarily land a good job right after graduation, but it is an experience everyone should get to have. It’s unfortunate tuition keeps rising.

  67. I think you should only go to college if it’s a step towards your dream. I don’t see the point in going just to go or because you don’t know what you want to do. I am in my second year of college and love it. I’m studying Ministry to Victims of Sexual Exploitation which is a step toward my dream. I hated high school, but apparently learning is fun when you are studying material you care about.

    I should graduate debt free because I chose a cheap but good school. I actually enjoy college so much I’m considering going for my masters too – only if it will benefit my career, that is the reason I haven’t yet decided. There are ways to get your grad school payed for as well. If I do grad school, I will graduate debt free or with little debt that I can pay off within a year or two.

    Oh, and there’s the fact that college provides cool opportunities like studying abroad. Did I mention I’m writing this from Athens, Greece? Just be smart about your money, college, and debt. It’s possible to graduate debt free! Do your research. If college will help you reach your dream not hinder it, go to college.

  68. If they really cared about your career goals why do they charge so much to attend? There is no way students should pay more than $2,000 per semester from any school. Otherwise it’s a scam unless they promise you a job after graduation. You put all the time and money to graduate and what do you get? A degree which is worth what in the market? No one knows if that degree will pay off so why spend a fortune for school? It’s ok to attend college if you have really good grades but it’s not ok to get robbed in the process. Anyone under 21 should never borrow money for school. Pay cash or don’t bother. If you don’t have the cash then the school is too overpriced in the first place.

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